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003FroehdeLaterProc.png|Froedhe visualisation of TLC plate, photographed soon after application.  Slightly redder purple fringing of dark spot
 
003FroehdeLaterProc.png|Froedhe visualisation of TLC plate, photographed soon after application.  Slightly redder purple fringing of dark spot
 
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003EhrlichEarlyProc.png|Ehrlich visualisation of TLC plate, photographed soon after application.  No reaction
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=== Big spot reagent tests ===
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This set of experiments tried to isolate a small contaminant (if it existed).  Using 2, 4, 8 and 16 times respotting of a similar amount as in the previous, no extra spots were identified.
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Then, big spots, approximately 5 microlitres of the freebase in DCM sample were tested.  A big version of the main spot was observed as before, but this time, it appears a second, much smaller spot, is consistently showing above the main spot.  Some tests were repeated in order to convince the observer that the effect wasn't due to an interaction between the main spot, and dynamics of the applied falling reagents.  Consistently there appears to be a small spot with a gap to the main spot.  The shape is somewhat corrupted though, and in all cases the colour change was the same or similar to the main spot reaction.  I currently think that I am seeing two different components of the sample, but if someone with more TLC experience interprets the results differently, please update this page.
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The effect was most obvious with Mecke and Froedhe but by eye was present in all the tests.
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007-Mecke-Start-Proc.png|TLC mehdma big sample, Mecke reagent, extra spot observed
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007-Marquis-Start-Proc.png|TLC mehdma big sample, Marquis reagent, extra spot observed
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007-Liebermann-Proc.png|TLC mehdma big sample, Liebermann reagent, extra spot observed
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007-Mandelin-Closeup-Proc.png|TLC mehdma big sample, Mandelin reagent, extra spot observed
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007-Ehrlicht-Proc.png|TLC mehdma big sample, Ehrlicht reagent, no reaction
 
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Revision as of 10:32, 27 May 2020

TLC Intro

Here you will find some experiments in thin layer chromatography of mehdma samples. The information should be relevant to magic samples as well, and also to other forms of chromatography.

Please note that the content here, at the time of writing, is by a beginner in TLC so do not expect it to be definitive.

Preparation

Two preparations have been tested:

  • Salt version: salt dissolved in isopropanol 10mg per ml, plus a small amount of ammonia (possibly not necessary). Takes a long time to dissolve
  • Freebased mehdma, dissolved in DCM, 10mg per ml (minus losses in freebasing procedure)

TLC systems

  • System 1: ethyl acetate : Methanol : Water : Ammonia as 95 : 3.5 : 1.5 : 0.75
  • System 2: DCM : Methanol : Ammonia as 90 : 9 : 1

Plates

Silica 254 UV Loaded with pulled capillary for a small spot

Visualisation

254nm UV

Results

Please note the following quality issues:

  • The plates were not pre-washed in the solvent comparison and show considerable material on the solvent front. This was also present with a plate with no sample.
  • Because the spot was small, uv lighting safe but unsophisticated, and a phone was used for photography, the images have been highly processed to accentuate the spot

Solvent system comparison

  • The ethyl acetate system failed to move the spot at all for the salt preparation, and only slightly for the freebase version (possibly due to the DCM in the sample prep?). Only the failed freebase version is shown.
  • Both the salt and freebase moved well with the DCM based system
  • Only one spot was observed

Reagent tests

Here are the results of marquis, froedhe and ehrlich reagents applied for visualisation. The photos have been processed so that the spot appeared as observed. Due to the camera used, and the automatic processing, this means the following images are inconsistent but the spots are reasonably close to the colours observered.

  • Freebase sample was used
  • Plates were pre-washed with methanol, which reduced the presence of material on the solvent front
  • No additional spots were found
  • Ehrlich never revealed a spot
  • Reference marquis and froedhe spots (on the plate but not put through TLC) were observed to be black
  • After TLC, the marquis and froedhe spots were more vivid than applying the reagents to the raw sample, or to the plated reference
  • Marquis had a vibrant blue to light blue fringe
  • Froedhe had a vibrant purple fringe, later becoming slightly redder

Big spot reagent tests

This set of experiments tried to isolate a small contaminant (if it existed). Using 2, 4, 8 and 16 times respotting of a similar amount as in the previous, no extra spots were identified.

Then, big spots, approximately 5 microlitres of the freebase in DCM sample were tested. A big version of the main spot was observed as before, but this time, it appears a second, much smaller spot, is consistently showing above the main spot. Some tests were repeated in order to convince the observer that the effect wasn't due to an interaction between the main spot, and dynamics of the applied falling reagents. Consistently there appears to be a small spot with a gap to the main spot. The shape is somewhat corrupted though, and in all cases the colour change was the same or similar to the main spot reaction. I currently think that I am seeing two different components of the sample, but if someone with more TLC experience interprets the results differently, please update this page.

The effect was most obvious with Mecke and Froedhe but by eye was present in all the tests.

To do

  • Other reagent and other visualisation methods applied to plates.
  • Different systems